Comments on: Dog ‘Attack’ in Edmonds http://ahimsadogtraining.com/blog/2009/10/09/dog-attack-in-edmonds/ News, Tips, and Information Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:49:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: DM http://ahimsadogtraining.com/blog/2009/10/09/dog-attack-in-edmonds/comment-page-1/#comment-831 DM Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:01:06 +0000 http://ahimsadogtraining.com/blog/?p=879#comment-831 I wanted to cross post a response a member of the Boston Terrier community received from KOMO reporter Michelle Estaban. Animal control does NOT believe the Magnuson attack(s) to be a hoax and are taking this very seriously. _________________________________________________________________________________________ I just received this answer from the reporter of the story about the dog attacks after sending her an email (also included). Come to your own conclusions. Thanks for writing. All I can tell you is that many folks are worried the stories on the attacks were meant to promote a breed ban. That is not true. I love dogs, all dogs. Not that it matters. Animal Control Field Supervisor Don Baxter assured me the incidents were not a ‘hoax’ that they were taking them ‘very seriously’ and that they were beefing up patrols at Magnuson and they also asked KOMO to air their dispatch number, in case any witnesses were willing to come forward. According to Baxter the owner did not fill out a report for privacy reason and fear. If Animal Control deems it a hoax, we’ll be happy to report it – but for now – it’s still unsolved. Since Animal Control took it seriously – we chose to let viewers know about and decide for themselves what they want to think and do. Hope this helps. Michelle Michelle Esteban KOMO 4 Problem Solvers Reporter 140 4th Avenue North Seattle, WA 98109 I wanted to cross post a response a member of the Boston Terrier community received from KOMO reporter Michelle Estaban. Animal control does NOT believe the Magnuson attack(s) to be a hoax and are taking this very seriously.
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I just received this answer from the reporter of the story about the dog attacks after sending her an email (also included). Come to your own conclusions.

Thanks for writing.

All I can tell you is that many folks are worried the stories on the attacks were meant to promote a breed ban.

That is not true.

I love dogs, all dogs. Not that it matters.

Animal Control Field Supervisor Don Baxter assured me the incidents were not a ‘hoax’ that they were taking them ‘very seriously’ and that they were beefing up patrols at Magnuson and they also asked KOMO to air their dispatch number, in case any witnesses were willing to come forward.

According to Baxter the owner did not fill out a report for privacy reason and fear.

If Animal Control deems it a hoax, we’ll be happy to report it – but for now – it’s still unsolved.

Since Animal Control took it seriously – we chose to let viewers know about and decide for themselves what they want to think and do.

Hope this helps.

Michelle

Michelle Esteban

KOMO 4 Problem Solvers

Reporter

140 4th Avenue North

Seattle, WA 98109

]]> By: Grisha http://ahimsadogtraining.com/blog/2009/10/09/dog-attack-in-edmonds/comment-page-1/#comment-822 Grisha Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:14:51 +0000 http://ahimsadogtraining.com/blog/?p=879#comment-822 You are right about social psychology and how people are unwilling to come forward. However, a member of the Edmonds police department told me that they are not the same peeps, and furthermore, since no reports were filed and no witnesses seem to exist, that Maguson was a hoax. We shall see. I'll continue to promote safety at dog parks, but not necessarily because of these incidents, since Magnuson may be a hoax. I hope it is, for the sake of the supposed victims. As soon as I know for sure, one way or another, I will blog about it. You are right about social psychology and how people are unwilling to come forward. However, a member of the Edmonds police department told me that they are not the same peeps, and furthermore, since no reports were filed and no witnesses seem to exist, that Maguson was a hoax. We shall see. I’ll continue to promote safety at dog parks, but not necessarily because of these incidents, since Magnuson may be a hoax. I hope it is, for the sake of the supposed victims.

As soon as I know for sure, one way or another, I will blog about it.

]]> By: DM http://ahimsadogtraining.com/blog/2009/10/09/dog-attack-in-edmonds/comment-page-1/#comment-821 DM Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:44:46 +0000 http://ahimsadogtraining.com/blog/?p=879#comment-821 Don't be so quick to write this off as not being the same people. Does the truck match? Do the descriptions of the humans match? All of us in the dog world know how people can get colors/breeds/descriptions confused. And law enforcement officers will tell you that witnesses often times get confused or get the info. incorrect in any crime. As for not enough reports or witnesses at Magnuson. How many crimes are perpetrated against people every minute of the day while people just walk past and refuse to get involved? A lot. And the owner of the dog killed may not want to come foreward and re-live the horror. This past summer a little Boston Terrier in Portland Oregon was taken from his yard, tortured, throat slashed, skinned and hung from the tree in a school yard. While the family wants the person caught, they have declined interviews or help from the local BT community. They just want to get on with life. Could be the same thing in this case. People deal with things differently. Don’t be so quick to write this off as not being the same people. Does the truck match? Do the descriptions of the humans match? All of us in the dog world know how people can get colors/breeds/descriptions confused. And law enforcement officers will tell you that witnesses often times get confused or get the info. incorrect in any crime.

As for not enough reports or witnesses at Magnuson. How many crimes are perpetrated against people every minute of the day while people just walk past and refuse to get involved? A lot.

And the owner of the dog killed may not want to come foreward and re-live the horror. This past summer a little Boston Terrier in Portland Oregon was taken from his yard, tortured, throat slashed, skinned and hung from the tree in a school yard. While the family wants the person caught, they have declined interviews or help from the local BT community. They just want to get on with life. Could be the same thing in this case. People deal with things differently.

]]> By: Amy http://ahimsadogtraining.com/blog/2009/10/09/dog-attack-in-edmonds/comment-page-1/#comment-807 Amy Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:58:19 +0000 http://ahimsadogtraining.com/blog/?p=879#comment-807 If you are a parent, there are certain kids you don't let your children play with. Everyone knows _that_ family with bad parents and kids who are trouble. The same thing goes for your dogs - when you go to the park, keep your dogs away from unruly dogs with bad parents, break up aggressive play before it goes to far, and bring citronella spray just in case. As for what happened at Magnuson - I am beginning to believe that it was in fact a hoax. Where are the police reports or witnesses? Magnuson is very popular - how did no one see a woman carrying a dying 60 pound dog to her car? Where is the vet report? If my dog was killed, I would do everything in my power to get him justice and protect others from suffering the same fate. But all the reports have been 2nd or 3rd hand. This all seems so suspicious. If you are a parent, there are certain kids you don’t let your children play with. Everyone knows _that_ family with bad parents and kids who are trouble. The same thing goes for your dogs – when you go to the park, keep your dogs away from unruly dogs with bad parents, break up aggressive play before it goes to far, and bring citronella spray just in case.

As for what happened at Magnuson – I am beginning to believe that it was in fact a hoax. Where are the police reports or witnesses? Magnuson is very popular – how did no one see a woman carrying a dying 60 pound dog to her car? Where is the vet report? If my dog was killed, I would do everything in my power to get him justice and protect others from suffering the same fate. But all the reports have been 2nd or 3rd hand. This all seems so suspicious.

]]> By: moe http://ahimsadogtraining.com/blog/2009/10/09/dog-attack-in-edmonds/comment-page-1/#comment-806 moe Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:12:51 +0000 http://ahimsadogtraining.com/blog/?p=879#comment-806 I just ran into this couple at blue dog dog park in the Central district. It was about 4:30 pm and had read their descriptions and turned and left immediately. They definatley had a frightening stare and stopped and waited for us to come into the park, we did NOt. I called the police and Animal control. I just ran into this couple at blue dog dog park in the Central district. It was about 4:30 pm and had read their descriptions and turned and left immediately. They definatley had a frightening stare and stopped and waited for us to come into the park, we did NOt. I called the police and Animal control.

]]> By: Tyra Turnauer http://ahimsadogtraining.com/blog/2009/10/09/dog-attack-in-edmonds/comment-page-1/#comment-796 Tyra Turnauer Mon, 12 Oct 2009 03:52:48 +0000 http://ahimsadogtraining.com/blog/?p=879#comment-796 Around the beginning of Spring of this year, I was taking my pitbull "Chuck" for a walk at Magnuson park (outside the dog park) along the trails slightly south of the tennis courts. I heard dogs running in the brush and I noticed a man with three pitbull mixed dogs running around with no leashes helter skelter. I told the owner that this was not a dog park and that he needed leashes for his dogs. He made no attemp to put a leash on his dogs. One of the dogs came towards me and my dog, I told him to get his dog or I would taze it. He said, "I don't care taze him." as he took a big hit off of his cigarette. As I started to walk away I told him that I didn't want to taze his dog. The dog stopped coming towards me which was a good thing. I went straight to my car and called animal control who told me they would send someone down. I waited there an hour and animal control did not come down there. I also took down all the license plates and waited for them to exit. Some how they got away without me noticing or they parked in a place I was unaware of. For the next couple of weeks I noticed I would keep bumping into these dogs ( sometimes it was him and his girlfriend) and it would terrify me because every time I would call animal control, they would tell me to get a license plate number otherwise there was nothing they could do! They would not send anyone down and I started to feel like I was being treated like the crazy old lady who wasn't being taken serious. So, I started to ask the other poeple at the park to call and complain. I just stopped taking my dog to Magnuson park. I'm sure these were the same people. Around the beginning of Spring of this year, I was taking my pitbull “Chuck” for a walk at Magnuson park (outside the dog park) along the trails slightly south of the tennis courts. I heard dogs running in the brush and I noticed a man with three pitbull mixed dogs running around with no leashes helter skelter. I told the owner that this was not a dog park and that he needed leashes for his dogs. He made no attemp to put a leash on his dogs. One of the dogs came towards me and my dog, I told him to get his dog or I would taze it. He said, “I don’t care taze him.” as he took a big hit off of his cigarette. As I started to walk away I told him that I didn’t want to taze his dog. The dog stopped coming towards me which was a good thing. I went straight to my car and called animal control who told me they would send someone down. I waited there an hour and animal control did not come down there. I also took down all the license plates and waited for them to exit. Some how they got away without me noticing or they parked in a place I was unaware of. For the next couple of weeks I noticed I would keep bumping into these dogs ( sometimes it was him and his girlfriend) and it would terrify me because every time I would call animal control, they would tell me to get a license plate number otherwise there was nothing they could do! They would not send anyone down and I started to feel like I was being treated like the crazy old lady who wasn’t being taken serious. So, I started to ask the other poeple at the park to call and complain. I just stopped taking my dog to Magnuson park. I’m sure these were the same people.

]]> By: Kare http://ahimsadogtraining.com/blog/2009/10/09/dog-attack-in-edmonds/comment-page-1/#comment-792 Kare Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:55:15 +0000 http://ahimsadogtraining.com/blog/?p=879#comment-792 Ugh, I'm so sorry this happened to someone else, but thank goodness the dog wasn't seriously hurt. I'm thrilled that the person who wrote you was able to get a license plate number, and has passed it on. I hope this leads to a quick resolution. Grisha, I really appreciate you keeping us up to date on this. Thank you. I don't want this to stop me from taking my two dogs to the park (I go to Edmonds and Magnuson all the time), but I have to admit I am a little scared. But I ordered some of the citronella spray from your Web site earlier today, and will have that in hand next time! Ugh, I’m so sorry this happened to someone else, but thank goodness the dog wasn’t seriously hurt. I’m thrilled that the person who wrote you was able to get a license plate number, and has passed it on. I hope this leads to a quick resolution.

Grisha, I really appreciate you keeping us up to date on this. Thank you. I don’t want this to stop me from taking my two dogs to the park (I go to Edmonds and Magnuson all the time), but I have to admit I am a little scared. But I ordered some of the citronella spray from your Web site earlier today, and will have that in hand next time!

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