Comments on: Dog Fences: Invisible vs. Visible http://ahimsadogtraining.com/blog/2008/02/10/invisible-electric-fence/ News, Tips, and Information Sat, 06 Sep 2008 01:47:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Grisha http://ahimsadogtraining.com/blog/2008/02/10/invisible-electric-fence/#comment-83 Grisha Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:34:15 +0000 http://ahimsadogtraining.com/blog/2008/02/10/invisible-electric-fence/#comment-83 RE: The Invisible Fence guys taking the fall, that's a good idea. But you never know what dog associates the fence shock with. Even if the Invisible Fence guy becomes the Scary Monster, is it really just that one person? Men wearing hats? Men with beards? Smokers? All men? Also, one could argue that if the beep of the fence boundary is enough to make the dog not cross the invisible line, then even if they walk up toward a child and hear the beep, that could be enough to increase fear of children. It's just so risky, as you know! RE: The Invisible Fence guys taking the fall, that’s a good idea. But you never know what dog associates the fence shock with. Even if the Invisible Fence guy becomes the Scary Monster, is it really just that one person? Men wearing hats? Men with beards? Smokers? All men?

Also, one could argue that if the beep of the fence boundary is enough to make the dog not cross the invisible line, then even if they walk up toward a child and hear the beep, that could be enough to increase fear of children. It’s just so risky, as you know!

]]> By: Amanda http://ahimsadogtraining.com/blog/2008/02/10/invisible-electric-fence/#comment-81 Amanda Fri, 15 Feb 2008 03:20:34 +0000 http://ahimsadogtraining.com/blog/2008/02/10/invisible-electric-fence/#comment-81 Great points. Somehow the Invisible Fence has a good rep and people don't call it a "shock" collar system. I had one student who used a do-it-yourself version for his back yard. His dog went into the yard, hit the boundary and got shocked. Then, the dog generalized the shock to the entire back yard and refused to set foot in any part of the yard ever again - oops! He was forced to walk his dog for exercise/potty after that, despite the fact that he had a huge back yard. I have heard that the Invisible Fence staff are the "bad guys" during "training" and associate themselves with the shock, not the owner. But you're right, if the owner forgets to take the collar off the dog can make a lasting bad association. Great points. Somehow the Invisible Fence has a good rep and people don’t call it a “shock” collar system. I had one student who used a do-it-yourself version for his back yard. His dog went into the yard, hit the boundary and got shocked. Then, the dog generalized the shock to the entire back yard and refused to set foot in any part of the yard ever again - oops! He was forced to walk his dog for exercise/potty after that, despite the fact that he had a huge back yard.

I have heard that the Invisible Fence staff are the “bad guys” during “training” and associate themselves with the shock, not the owner. But you’re right, if the owner forgets to take the collar off the dog can make a lasting bad association.

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